Telegraph | News

Telegraph | News: "As an IT Project Manager with a Computer Science degree I find this staggering. I have a daughter who lives with her mum, who has applied to the CSA. They have now taken 12 weeks to calculate how much I need to pay, despite the fact that the formula is: 15% of (Net Pay -15% (for my other child) ) I can work that out on the back of an envelope in one minute. Unfortunately due to the fact that any voluntary payments I make will only count if my ex wife verifies them, which I am afraid I am unable to trust her to do, I cannot make any payment for the upkeep of my daughter. I have been putting the money aside each month but cannot do anything with it. The CSA will not accept the payments in advance as they have no will or ability to take the money and let me settle up any difference once they finally do the sum themselves. So I now have £700 which I would like my daughter to benefit from now but she can't. As many fathers will know, once my wife finally gets the money (which will probably total well over £1000 by the time they have worked it out) I can look forward to seeing her fly off on a nice holiday.
Andy Tuke, Bristol"

Now how is that in the childs best interests? I ask because there is sertainly no justice in it.

ic Liverpool - Fathers 4 Justice in court protest

ic Liverpool - Fathers 4 Justice in court protest: "Fathers 4 Justice in court protest Nov 8 2004
By Petra Mann, Liverpool Echo

TWO men dressed as Batman and Robin scaled Liverpool's Queen Elizabeth II court complex today.

The members of campaign group Fathers 4 Justice were wanting to catch the attention of Prime Minister's wife Cherie Blair, due to appear as a barrister in the family court.

She was due to arrive at the courts through a rear entrance and not the main doors where the protest was held.

The men climbed to a third-floor balcony at the Derby Square building at about 5am and unfurled a banner.

Batman is Colin Vallis, 38, a father-of-three from Southport, and Robin is Dave Chesworth, 32, of Woolton, who also has three children.

The third-floor court rooms were closed causing delays as cases had to be moved. Police negotiators tried to talk the men down.

Fathers 4 Justice spokesman Rory Wilmer, 25, of New Brighton, said: 'There are family courts in the building and we want to highlight the problems many fathers face over access to their children.

'Colin and Dave have supplies of food and drink and hope to stay on the balcony for the whole day.'

Mr Vallis staged a similar demonstration in August this year on top of a crane used to build a family court on the corner of Tithebarn Street and Moorfields. He also scaled The Big One ride at Blackpool Pleasure Beach.

petramann@liverpoolecho.co.uk"

Why Men's Rights at all?

Once, long ago humanity may have lived in harmony but that changed the moment one early human looked at another and wanted what the other had and devised ways to get it.

Evil is the desire for rights and privileges without the responsibility, duty and answerability that goes with them. It is wanting to have the goods without paying for them. It is selfishness.

When any group seeks to use lies, deceptions or undue pressure to oppose another and you see this then you have seen evil. If you then do not act you condone the evil and contribute to it. We have all done this often without price but it is growing ever clearer that we must develop a sense of duty towards the culture in which we live.

First some evil was carried out by some men against some women. Women's Rights groups arose in answer to this and (rightly) demanded an end to the evil. Some how at some point a few less kindly persons have continued to push and wage a war where the evil is not the enemy but men are. This has result in that now some women are carrying out evil against men in general and some men in particular.

It is the duty of all humanity to call for an end to this pointless war. We have seen the need and so we raise our voices to address it.